1.   Both boys had been referred to professional therapists by counselors at Nathan Hale-Ray Middle School, said Cynthia Russo, a counselor there.

2.   Clinton said he believed people would be less hesitant to seek help from a minister than seeking counseling from a government social office or a professional therapist.

3.   Countless interviews with the media and a few with professional therapists had done the trick, he insisted.

4.   The committee, he said, included professional therapists.