1.   Animal lawyers point out that environmental and civil rights lawyers also were ridiculed.

2.   But activists and trial lawyers point to documents showing that as far back as a century ago, paint companies knew lead was dangerous.

3.   But industry lawyers point to a recent jury verdict in Oakland which shows gun manufacturers can win in court.

4.   Jurors pick up on the evasiveness if the lawyer points it out and asks the witness to answer the question directly, he said.

5.   Lawyers point out that former President Ronald Reagan failed to recall most details of the Iran-Contra arms-for-hostages deal.

6.   Legal experts and criminal defense lawyers point to other cases in which they say police acted too aggressively.

7.   Seemingly eager to sweep away stereotypes, some lawyers point out that this change could benefit foreign doctors and sushi chefs.