81.   Ed Fouhy, executive director of the Pew Center for Civic Journalism and a former network executive who produced presidential debates, agreed.

82.   Engler said that while some voters may have had doubts about Bush early on, those reservations evaporated after the presidential debates.

83.   Every four years the men who would be president squabble over the presidential debates.

84.   Following is the final list of stories transmitted by The New York Times News Service on the first presidential debate.

85.   For example, Rock the Vote has been trying to organize a presidential debate focused on youth issues, but neither campaign has accepted.

86.   For example, for voters who said they watched or listened to the first presidential debate it is plus or minus four percentage points.

87.   For Bush, speaking in public was never the easiest part of the job, and that weakness led to rigorous training sessions before the presidential debates.

88.   Four years ago, Perot was included in all three presidential debates and, by many accounts, won the first one.

89.   Fox did the Cardinals-Mets game for everyone while the other three networks had the second presidential debate.

90.   Fox has the baseball playoffs and World Series in October, and presidential debates and election coverage will also figure in there somewhere.